If I were close-minded, I wouldn’t be entertaining any of this. The straw man thing, it’s making the rounds. This is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about. I’ve heard it all before. It’s not unique or original, it is typical social media conservative speak, designed to attack presumed liberal social media speak.
BTW I don’t buy into the labels, because at this point they all mean different things to different people. Social media combined with strategic disinformation tactics have created a land of confusion, Tower of Babel situation. People just want to vent, angrily because they can’t figure out what else to do in a world where so many systems are breaking down.
And yet, most people are just trying to live their lives outside of all the vitriol and controversy on social media, and when people don’t, when they spill all of this insanity out into reality, there are real dangerous and sad consequences.
Where I live, Muslims and immigrants are often ruthlessly targeted with hateful actions and speech, and this bothers me, not because I’m liberal or politically correct, but because I am a decent human being and that’s not right.
But I am fine with saying to someone like you, we will have to agree to disagree. You strongly believe in everything that you have to say about feminism, and evidently Islam.
And for the most part I don’t have much of a dog in either one of those fights. Being open-minded enough to challenge dogma is not “political correctness” (another term degraded and used and misused ad naseam and into meaninglessness) it’s just the way intelligent thought and conversation has been occurring for years.
Anyone who attempts to shut down any conversation with insults and vitriol is attempting to hijack intelligent thought.
I am not debating anyone really, I am studying how the mechanisms of debate are being twisted, distorted and contorted so people can justify their beliefs. You have provided an amazing example of this. I’m going to study it, extensively.
From the things you say, it is clear to me that you are having drastically different life experiences than me, and your life experiences are reinforcing your beliefs. Your life is your life, and clearly in your life, feminist thought is a real threat. That’s real (for you.) Nothing I say can convince you otherwise. But you might want to consider, that what’s real for you, is not real for me, nor thousands if not millions of other people.
You’re not in the same camp as Svetlana though. You really are attempting to stick to the Lincoln/Douglas model of debate. I respect the intellectual integrity of your process.